A really impressive and heartfelt tribute, Charles! Thanks so much! I've always appreciated Tina's talent, but have not always been all in on her recorded output (granted, it's just been, largely, the duo '60s hits, and the '80s solo hits).
I'm curious, now, to discover how, why, and who was involved in re-starting her career for that '80s MTV-era run!
I'm wondering (and hoping) you'll do something on Ronnie Spector and/or The Ronettes at some point! If so, give a holla, yo, and if you're game, I'd love to add some collab input, as I've been a fan of theirs/hers for decades! And, Ronnie, sadly, had a similarly tumultuous marriage as did Tina (not that I'd focus on that at all, if I'm writing about her)!
That's an interesting idea, i had not been planning to write about her but maybe! Yes, Phil was a piece of work, and of course came to a bad end. If I do Ronnie, or for that matter a group like the Supremes, would love to collab on that.
Please holler if/when you give yourself the thumbs-up re: Ronnie. I've got little off-shoots about her career (that I was following/listening to as it happened) that should be a neat complement to what I'm guessing will be your main bio focus (as it should be).
Same with the Supremes. I've always loved them, and followed their (and Diana's) career. I saw them open for Judy Garland at the Astrodome in Dec '65. That fact helps me become the only living soul on the planet (this one) that has seen both Judy and the Sex Pistols (1/78) in concert in the same lifetime! Find another one....I dare you!😱
My heart stopped when I saw her step onto the stage in Germany with Eros Ramazotti, then tears swelled. She is simply THE BEST. Always an inspiration to me in my life. I went to the press junket in San Francisco for the film What's Love Got To Do With It - and it was wonderful. Proud Mary is iconic. Thanks Charles for posting and highlighting her illustrious career. If I could have 1/5th of her energy and talent, I'd be in heaven.
And, my instincts go immediately to how those two "hooked up." Was she a fan of his, he of hers, and who reached out to whom? I've never heard of him, but if he lacks US releases, that may explain why!
He's released his albums in the U.S. but they're all in Italian and Spanish, so Americans being as provincial as we are, no one here buys them. When he gives his rare concerts here, mostly Latinos and some people with Italian names go see him. But he's sold almost 70 million records worldwide, dueted with Cher, Luciano Pavarotti, Joe Cocker and of course Tina, among many. Honestly, his soft pop-rock is not my thing, but he's a global superstar and his fellow musicians love him. He met Turner at another music festival and I suspect it was mutual interest.
Well, he's recorded on labels with worldwide reach (BMG, the former RCA, recently merged with CBS/Sony, as opposed to just Italian or other EU-centered labels), and while his product may have seen stateside release, you're right about the limited audience due to language barriers.
While not a duet, but with the mention of Pavarotti, I'm hoping I'm the first to introduce you to this stunning nugget, in case you're not familiar (but, I'd be surprised if you're not).....two words: '98 Grammys telecast, and Aretha, filling in for Luciano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k33sINjn9o0
Thanks for the nuggets of info. You are very efficient!
Ok, so yes, I have seen this clip of Aretha, and sorry to be a party pooper, but I think it's one of the most unfortunate things she ever did. Truly, I wish I could unhear it. But I feel that way about most attempts by pop singers to try to sing classical. Ian Gillan and Robert Plant and lots of others have tried this and it doesn't work. Usually they do easier stuff than "Nessun Dorma", but they still can't pull it off. The only non-classically trained singer I know of who could was Freddy Mercury. There are others, like Floor Jansen and Simone Simons, who routinely sing classical pieces well, but they had classical training. When I watched this clip of Aretha I remember feeling sorry for her the whole time. Little did i know the Grammy crowd was eating it up... Oh well.
Well, despite your critique of her performance (and other failed classical attempts by rockers), she's, at the very least, to be commended for stepping up (and in) for a friend at the last minute. It's, for some, anyway, stirring and inspiring to see a legend meeting the moment.
But, to your point, if the Capezio was on the other foot, I'm willing to bet Luciano would sound fairly preposterous taking a stab at "Chain of Fools"....and, that's even IF he deigned to accept the challenge!
Amazing....I'll have to do a relatively partially-deep dive into his bio, just to fill in some initial gaps in my pop culture knowledge! I'd like to hear some of those duets, too, and see what label(s) he's been (is) on!
I would love to see what you turn up. The only one of those duets I have heard is this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZO_CShWr2o because I love hearing opera singers do pop and rock.
Certainly not a hidden gem, but I appreciate the attention to Tina Turner. Sometimes the songs and artists of today entice us enough to let the geniuses of yesterday be forgotten for a while. I love her music and definitely had not seen some of these clips. That performance with Eros was magnificent!
She is an icon but also an inspiration that you can still make an impact well into senior adulthood. And be in fabulous shape at that age, too!
Thanks for stopping by. Yes, the performance with Eros has 200+ million views but very few of those seem to be her American audience--so for us, that clip almost qualifies as a "hidden gem". Tina just turned 80 last year, lives with her much younger husband in Switzerland...just wishing her well deserved happiness and health.
Wow! I didn't realize she was 80. Good to be back perusing the 'stacks. It's been a wild and crazy January. Not nearly enough leisure time for my favorite hobby.
I'm trying to get there, Brad, but I'm finding it difficult enough to process I'm only three years away from 50 (and not rich enough to conceive of retiring any time soon!). :)
A really impressive and heartfelt tribute, Charles! Thanks so much! I've always appreciated Tina's talent, but have not always been all in on her recorded output (granted, it's just been, largely, the duo '60s hits, and the '80s solo hits).
I'm curious, now, to discover how, why, and who was involved in re-starting her career for that '80s MTV-era run!
I'm wondering (and hoping) you'll do something on Ronnie Spector and/or The Ronettes at some point! If so, give a holla, yo, and if you're game, I'd love to add some collab input, as I've been a fan of theirs/hers for decades! And, Ronnie, sadly, had a similarly tumultuous marriage as did Tina (not that I'd focus on that at all, if I'm writing about her)!
That's an interesting idea, i had not been planning to write about her but maybe! Yes, Phil was a piece of work, and of course came to a bad end. If I do Ronnie, or for that matter a group like the Supremes, would love to collab on that.
Please holler if/when you give yourself the thumbs-up re: Ronnie. I've got little off-shoots about her career (that I was following/listening to as it happened) that should be a neat complement to what I'm guessing will be your main bio focus (as it should be).
Same with the Supremes. I've always loved them, and followed their (and Diana's) career. I saw them open for Judy Garland at the Astrodome in Dec '65. That fact helps me become the only living soul on the planet (this one) that has seen both Judy and the Sex Pistols (1/78) in concert in the same lifetime! Find another one....I dare you!😱
My heart stopped when I saw her step onto the stage in Germany with Eros Ramazotti, then tears swelled. She is simply THE BEST. Always an inspiration to me in my life. I went to the press junket in San Francisco for the film What's Love Got To Do With It - and it was wonderful. Proud Mary is iconic. Thanks Charles for posting and highlighting her illustrious career. If I could have 1/5th of her energy and talent, I'd be in heaven.
Very few Americans seem to know about that performance with Eros, despite its 200+million views. So I was happy to post it. Yes, she is inspiring.
And, my instincts go immediately to how those two "hooked up." Was she a fan of his, he of hers, and who reached out to whom? I've never heard of him, but if he lacks US releases, that may explain why!
He's released his albums in the U.S. but they're all in Italian and Spanish, so Americans being as provincial as we are, no one here buys them. When he gives his rare concerts here, mostly Latinos and some people with Italian names go see him. But he's sold almost 70 million records worldwide, dueted with Cher, Luciano Pavarotti, Joe Cocker and of course Tina, among many. Honestly, his soft pop-rock is not my thing, but he's a global superstar and his fellow musicians love him. He met Turner at another music festival and I suspect it was mutual interest.
Well, he's recorded on labels with worldwide reach (BMG, the former RCA, recently merged with CBS/Sony, as opposed to just Italian or other EU-centered labels), and while his product may have seen stateside release, you're right about the limited audience due to language barriers.
While not a duet, but with the mention of Pavarotti, I'm hoping I'm the first to introduce you to this stunning nugget, in case you're not familiar (but, I'd be surprised if you're not).....two words: '98 Grammys telecast, and Aretha, filling in for Luciano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k33sINjn9o0
Thanks for the nuggets of info. You are very efficient!
Ok, so yes, I have seen this clip of Aretha, and sorry to be a party pooper, but I think it's one of the most unfortunate things she ever did. Truly, I wish I could unhear it. But I feel that way about most attempts by pop singers to try to sing classical. Ian Gillan and Robert Plant and lots of others have tried this and it doesn't work. Usually they do easier stuff than "Nessun Dorma", but they still can't pull it off. The only non-classically trained singer I know of who could was Freddy Mercury. There are others, like Floor Jansen and Simone Simons, who routinely sing classical pieces well, but they had classical training. When I watched this clip of Aretha I remember feeling sorry for her the whole time. Little did i know the Grammy crowd was eating it up... Oh well.
Well, despite your critique of her performance (and other failed classical attempts by rockers), she's, at the very least, to be commended for stepping up (and in) for a friend at the last minute. It's, for some, anyway, stirring and inspiring to see a legend meeting the moment.
But, to your point, if the Capezio was on the other foot, I'm willing to bet Luciano would sound fairly preposterous taking a stab at "Chain of Fools"....and, that's even IF he deigned to accept the challenge!
Amazing....I'll have to do a relatively partially-deep dive into his bio, just to fill in some initial gaps in my pop culture knowledge! I'd like to hear some of those duets, too, and see what label(s) he's been (is) on!
I would love to see what you turn up. The only one of those duets I have heard is this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZO_CShWr2o because I love hearing opera singers do pop and rock.
Certainly not a hidden gem, but I appreciate the attention to Tina Turner. Sometimes the songs and artists of today entice us enough to let the geniuses of yesterday be forgotten for a while. I love her music and definitely had not seen some of these clips. That performance with Eros was magnificent!
She is an icon but also an inspiration that you can still make an impact well into senior adulthood. And be in fabulous shape at that age, too!
Thanks for stopping by. Yes, the performance with Eros has 200+ million views but very few of those seem to be her American audience--so for us, that clip almost qualifies as a "hidden gem". Tina just turned 80 last year, lives with her much younger husband in Switzerland...just wishing her well deserved happiness and health.
Wow! I didn't realize she was 80. Good to be back perusing the 'stacks. It's been a wild and crazy January. Not nearly enough leisure time for my favorite hobby.
Golly, what a conundrum, Holly! Join me in retirement, and you'll discover time is much more of an available commodity!!😉
I'm trying to get there, Brad, but I'm finding it difficult enough to process I'm only three years away from 50 (and not rich enough to conceive of retiring any time soon!). :)
Holly, you're still a kid by my standards! My son was born when I was 44. I'm far from retired, so browsing the stacks comes out of sleep time.
The thought of having a kid at this age is exhausting enough. Talk about things that come out of sleep time! I'm no good without my sleep.